Wednesday, September 26, 2018

Review: Harnds Disguiser, Ganzo G742 and G722 frame-lock folders side by side

Sturdy, budget friendly frame-lock folders

All of them come with excellent fit & finish, tight tolerances (just have a look at the lock-bar cut out), lock-bar stabilizer and superb ergonomics. 
The G722 is a heavy duty beast. It's the heaviest of the 3 and only this one is equipped with a deep carry pocket clip (which is reversible) and back spacer.
The G742 is the more compact, slimmed down version of the G722. It has a conventional Benchmade style reversible pocket clip and an open back (no back spacer).
The Disguiser has the best size (blade length) - weight ratio thanks to its linerless G10 handle. It has a curved pocket clip which is not reversible and an open back. The camo G10 handle and the black acid washed finish add some tactical vibe to this folder. This one also has the most aggressive jimpings on the blade spine out of the 3.   

Harnds CK7201 Disguiser
Pros:
- excellent fit & finish,
- very good ergonomics,
- black acid washed 9Cr18MoV blade with excellent slicing and piercing performance,
- perfect blade centering,
- solid lock-up without any blade play,
- comfortable, chamfered lock-bar,
- smooth opening & closing,
- aggressive jimpings on the blade spine
- good size - weight ratio

Cons:
- you need a special tool for the pivot screw (needle nose pliers will do)
- non reversible pocket clip

Ganzo G742
Pros:
- excellent fit & finish,
- very good ergonomics,
- nice satin finished blade,
- perfect blade centering,
- solid lock-up without any blade play,
- comfortable, chamfered lock-bar,
- compact size
- good price

Cons:
- shiny pocket clip

Ganzo G722
Pros:
- superb fit & finish with tight tolerances
- very good ergonomics,
- massive, heavy duty design,
- sturdy satin finished blade,
- perfect blade centering,
- solid lock-up without any blade play,
- comfortable, chamfered lock-bar,
- deep carry pocket clip,
- window breaker tip
- very good price

Cons:
- it's a heavy folder (228 g)
- initial sharpness could be better


Harnds Disguiser Ganzo G742 Ganzo G722
Blade length: 3.74" (95 mm) 3.47" (88 mm) 3.58" (91 mm)
Blade thickness: 0.15" (3.8 mm) 0.126" (3.2 mm) 0.15" (3.8 mm)
Blade steel:  9Cr18MoV 440C 440C
Open length: 8.54" (217 mm) 8.23" (209 mm) 8.38" (213 mm)
Closed length: 4.76" (121 mm) 4.72" (120 mm) 4.8" (122 mm)
Handle thickness: 0.48" (12.2 mm) 0.441" (11.2 mm) 0.563" (14.3 mm)
Weight: 6.49 oz (184 g) 5.74 oz (163 g) 8.04 oz (228 g)
Handle: G10 + steel lock side G10 w steel liner + steel lock side G10 w steel liner + steel lock side
Lock: frame-lock frame-lock frame-lock
Carry: right hand tip up right or left hand tip up right or left hand tip up
Pivot: teflon washers bronze washers bronze washers
Opening: thumb studs thumb studs thumb studs
Extra: - storage pouch storage pouch

You can buy them at GearBest:
Harnds Disguiser: ***HERE***
Ganzo G742: ***HERE***
Ganzo G722: ***HERE***

More Ganzo folders: ***HERE***
More Harnds folders: ***HERE*** or ***HERE***

Have a look at my other budget frame-lock comparison
(Ganzo G722, G723 and Enlan EL-08)***HERE*** 

Harnds Disguiser, Ganzo G742 and G722 side by side:
Harnds CK7210 Disguiser, Ganzo G742 and G722
Harnds CK7210 Disguiser, Ganzo G742 and G722

Solid early lock-up, dead centered blade:
Harnds Disguiser:
Harnds Disguiser CK7201
Ganzo G742:
Ganzo G742
Ganzo G722:
Ganzo G722
Superb fit & finish and tight tolerances:
Harnds CK7210 Disguiser, Ganzo G742 and G722
Harnds CK7210 Disguiser and Ganzo G742
Harnds CK7210 Disguiser, Ganzo G742 and G722
Ganzo G742 and G722
Harnds CK7210 Disguiser and Ganzo G742
The G722 has a back spacer:
Harnds CK7210 Disguiser, Ganzo G742 and G722
The Harnds has the most aggressive
 jimpings on the blade spine out of the three:
Harnds CK7210 Disguiser, Ganzo G742 and G722
Harnds Disguiser disassembled:
Harnds CK7210 Disguiser disassembled

More pics:
Harnds CK7210 Disguiser, Ganzo G742 and G722
Harnds CK7210 Disguiser, Ganzo G742 and G722
Harnds CK7210 Disguiser, Ganzo G742 and G722
Harnds CK7210 Disguiser, Ganzo G742 and G722
Harnds CK7210 Disguiser, Ganzo G742 and G722
Harnds CK7210 Disguiser, Ganzo G742 and G722
Harnds CK7210 Disguiser, Ganzo G742 and G722
Harnds CK7210 Disguiser, Ganzo G742 and G722
Harnds CK7210 Disguiser, Ganzo G742 and G722
Harnds CK7210 Disguiser, Ganzo G742 and G722
Harnds CK7210 Disguiser, Ganzo G742 and G722
Harnds CK7210 Disguiser, Ganzo G742 and G722
Harnds CK7210 Disguiser, Ganzo G742 and G722
Harnds CK7210 Disguiser, Ganzo G742 and G722
Harnds CK7210 Disguiser, Ganzo G742 and G722
Harnds CK7210 Disguiser, Ganzo G742 and G722

7 comments:

  1. Best comparation of these 3 blades on internet. Do you thing the G10 handle in the Harnds 7201 makes his endurance drops down? I have an G742 but this i dented his blade pretty bad chopping a wood, the funny thing is that i alredy had done a lot of batoning with him.

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    1. Thank you! :)
      The Harnds feels pretty solid and performs quite well during every day cutting chores. The G10 scale is also quite thick (4 mm).

      I can't comment on batoning because I don't do batoning with any of my folders. In my opinion a fixed blade is much more suitable for chopping and batoning if you don't have an axe lying around. :)

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    2. Yes, know but i wanted to seed how tough the G742 was. The blade is good, buy have they limitations, i think have the bad luck of buy a low quality tempered metal, there some torture tests on youtube with another Ganzo model(different model, same metal) where they handle with battoning pretty darn well. I will try Harnds this time, similar metal but a different brand. Thank you for your reply.

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  2. I Have coupla SRM. 4 x Ganzo. 1 x Harnds and one x Y Start.
    All economy models. Max around $50.
    Plus a coupla Puma, 3 x Custom, and a Martiini fixed. ALL 50+ yrs old
    (Ex Hunter/Skinner decades ago.) and a modern Cold Steel 6in
    oh a Cold Steel fixed. reheated/quenched. again ain't bad either.

    I weld a lot too so know the sparking blending of metals.and FEEL.

    The Y Start has the finest, Smoothest, "feeling" metal, of these blades.
    when on a diamond steel.
    Followed by the Harnds. then Puma. Folding and fixed.
    a mix of SRM and Ganzo after that.
    The heat treatment on the metals makes a HUUUge diference too.
    But the latter are ALL soft to work compared to the first 2 names.
    You can see the metal disappearing from the blades
    when using a 6oo grade diamond on them.
    Thank god they cheap for replacement.
    My little Firebird 753M is a beautiful knife. But I reckon the blade will have dissolved away in around 12/18 months. The way it's going now.
    The Y Start and Harnds both say D2. But I wouldn't put money on it.
    The Diamond steels wear ém away quick.

    My Custom and Chef knives all several levels up in steel quality.
    Starting at VG10 laminate and rising.

    Batoning. Is for fixed only then axe, then (self) Chain saw.
    Folders. I use for opening packages. Cutting fruit.
    and some, to maybe 3\4 in. rope.

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    1. Hi Macka17,
      Thank you for your feedback about your experience! As long as the edge retention is decent I'm not concered about how the Chinese label their steels in this super budget category. Telling the truth I even prefer fake D2 to the real one since I don't have to worry about rust spots. I hate when a D2 blade rusts on me after a sweaty summer day.

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  3. The harnds knife has been tested bye “love them knives on YouTube”and they passed with flying colors realD2 and 14c28n Rockwell hardness is 60.1And 61. In that order harnesses in expensive but no way cheap that’s nice for the money, that said I have a Lot of cold steel knives I prefer the triad lock. I use the harms knives for beaters And they proved to be worthy.

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    1. Harnds folders represent a very good value for the money for sure. My favourites are the Talisman, the Seal and the Beak at the moment. Unfortunately Cold Steel knives are quite expensive here in the EU so I have only very few of them.

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