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Wednesday, February 17, 2016

Lionsteel T.R.E. style folder from Dicoria

Seller's pics
The T.R.E. is available again! 

- Awesome design with removable thumbdisk and flipper
- Premium M390 powder steel pearl stone washed blade
- Ball bearing pivot system
- Light weight and compact size for every day carry
- Exclusive wooden gift box with tools

Details:
Blade length: 2.91" (74 mm)
Blade thickness: 0.138" (3.5 mm)
Blade steel: M390 Powder Steel (61.5 HRC)
Open length: 6.89" (175 mm)
Closed length: 3.98" (101 mm)
Weight: 2.82 oz (80 g)
Handle: titanium
Lock: frame lock with steel insert
Carry: right or left hand tip up
Extra: wooden gift box + tools

You can buy the T.R.E. at Dicoria on Aliexpress: ***HERE*** (new link)

!!New!!
Super light weight (76g) carbon fiber version: ***HERE***

Because of a stupid rule of Aliexpress the sellers are forced to photoshop the locking mechanism on the folders. So don't worry these folders come with solid frame-locks!

You can buy the screwdriver tool separately: ***HERE***

34 comments:

  1. Do you already have it (or is this posting more like a precum kind of thing ^^ )?

    If you have it...
    Does it come with the tiny screws to close the holes in the blade (when removing flipper / thumb disk) as the original does?
    How does it feel and slice (considering the really thick blade stock for such a relatively small blade)?
    Does it (knife and packaging) come "blank" or does it have ANY markings suggesting it would be a Lionsteel (as to say: is it just "very inspired" by it or does it claim to be one (thinking of the ever alarmed local customs lady ...))?

    Thanks for keeping track as always :)

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    1. It's only a preview post at the moment I'm still tryint to convince myself that I don't need it. :)

      According to the description they ship it with the small screwdrivers.
      Franz will receive his T.E.R. sooner so he can confirm the info.

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    2. From the pics the seller shows, the knife doesn't have any markings other than "M390" on the blade (lock side). Based on my experience with this seller and the knives of this level they sell, I'd say this is really going to be the case and that the box won't show any brands neither. So simply "very inspired".

      The fill-in screws seem to be coming in, but sadly they don't have the same slots in the box where to screw them when you don't use them... So maybe they're not included and you should use the screws that attached the flipper or thumbdisc to fill in the gap.

      Mine shipped yesterday, and I'll do a review as soon as I receive it. But that will probably be in about 2 weeks (or possibly more, or less... )

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  2. Looks great...
    The only "weakness" I see is that the pocket clip and back spacer seem to be anodised to a "too vibrant" blue...
    Happy to have it on order!

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  3. I'd probably buy the screwdrivers if they were sold seperately...

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    1. I've just linked the screwdriver tool for you! :)

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  4. Have you seen the A Dai GTC folder? Very nice clean linear profile. If only blade was offered in stone wash.

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    1. A friend of mine has one of those GTC folders. It's a very fine gentleman style folder.

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    2. That GTC is the only front flipper I could find that's not a custom, besides Boker's Exskelibur of course. Still a bit expensive for me atm, maybe SRM should make a front flipper, the model 702 with an 8cm blade would be perfect for that if they just leave the thumb studs...

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    3. Wouldn't you define he Anax as a front flipper too? I know that's the way I open it the most often. Anyway, it's not cheaper than the GTC and seems to have vanished from AE (might come back, though).

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    4. To me a front flipper is working like the Exskellibur.
      I like it because for non-knife-people it's looking like a two-hand-opener.
      The Anax is a "normal" flipper knive to me but I like to deploy a flipper knife's blade like a lighter with my thumb, usually that's only working with the help of a tip-up clip.

      Right now I love to do that wit my modded Kershaw Chill.
      http://edcforums.com/threads/show-us-your-knife-mods.109204/page-120#post-2537491

      Otherwise I'd like to see again the John Henry button lock knife I found once on AliEx...

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    5. Look again at the Anax it doesn't have a flipper tab protruding from the back of the handle (and couldn't possible have one, with the integral handle going closed up to the stop pin. What you have is the squared "butt" of the blade that protrudes from the top/front part when closed, and like with a lighter you open it... Exactly like you describe! And that explains (to me) why you have two gimping areas! One is for the flip, the other for the handling.

      Anyway, they seem to have vanished so there's no much use pointing out that it does work that way! And your Chill looks rather stupendous in its blue/carbon attire!

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    6. Now I see, yes, I actually mixed it up with another black/silver knife. The Anax is a bit too big for me though, the Chinogorov Neon is my max for edc, maybe I'll get an Exskelibur eventually.

      By the way, I disassembled my Neon with the weak detent, clamped a knife clip into the gap of the frame lock to hold it down a bit more and heated the spring recess with a flame lighter. Now the detent is nice and stiff and I only got a very slight discoloration in the anodizing, not even possible to get it with my camera and my photo skills.

      Thanks about your kind words on the Chill, it was fun to do it and rather surprising when I ground down the pivot area on the backside and realised that I got an end of a cf sheet where you can see the single threads making it even more unique ;)

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  5. Seems like Dicoria went offline again. It's been a short window and I'm very happy that I jumped in immediately!
    Let's hope that I keep feeling this way when I receive the knife!

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  6. New channel for Dicoria http://www.dhgate.com/store/19730603

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  7. Is it the conversion in euros from AE that was great, my memory playing tricks, or are the prices really a bit higher on DHgate ???

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    1. The prices are higher so I hope they can reopen their store on AE.

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  8. Last AE Dicoria message I got:
    "BEN N: hello friend
    I'm Dicoria knives' Ben,aliexpress of Chinese camping knife maybe die,they not allow us to sell,But we still have way,now we sell knife on dhgate.com,Please pay attention to our new shop on dhgate"

    I am not a fan of the DHgate site, it seems like they charge more in general :/
    Many of my used stores at AE have stopped selling around Chinese New Year ...
    Temporary or for good ... who knows

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    1. Yes we'll see but sure enough some dealers on DHgate are proper thieves...
      I've never purchased anything from there yet but it's generally less reassuring than on AE from what I got...

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  9. Thanks for the updated AE link
    I got a too good deal to resist :)

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    1. Great news!!
      And most likely you'll get yours before I get mine, the French Post is becoming sooooo slow these days.

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    2. Chinese New Year hit the logistics ... seems like a whole month of delays

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  10. I received it this morning...
    It's very good, with a blade that really seems fantastic (super well ground), a great fit and finish, and rather smooth action.
    Little negatives: there are no additional screws, so if you remove the thumbdisc or the flipper, a hole remains (unless you can re-use the original screw?). It's also quite dirty and a bit gritty. The detent is a bit weak (so flipping is good but not great).
    On the positive, the blue anodised parts are a less vivid blue than on pics and the colour really is great.
    The overall feel is that of a small sebenza with flipper and ball bearings... I'll review it soon.

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    1. It sounds great, congratulations!
      I suppose you can buy additional (shorter) screws for the holes in a screw shop for cheap.

      Mentioning the small Sebenza this new Inkosi clone come to my mind. :)

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    2. I had not seen that inkosi yet... Thanks for the heads-up!
      Sure I could by replacement screws but really I feel like I'll let the knife be with both flipper and thumbdisc: I'm much of a flipper guy, so the flipper stays, and I appreciate flicking with my thumb from time to time (even if it's a bit difficult here, the flipper getting in the way rather often) but mainly the thumbdisc actually works great as a "thumb ramp" or "gimping" of sorts and helps having a very nice and comfy grip on the knife. So it stays too... ;) And that solves the problem of having to find the right screws, and then of where to store them...

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  11. And here is my review and pics of this very nice TRE clone! I just wish I knew for sure that the blade really is well heat treated M390, but hey..

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    1. You will know more about it after the first sharpening. :)

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    2. Or if I don't need to sharpen it in a loonng time (most probable... I'm rotating my knives often, don't do any hardcore tasks with folders and this one was very sharp out of the box). So I judge mostly on colour and oxidation reactions... It could really be m390.

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  12. I don't want to play the party pooper, but I do. If you're considering to buy this knife, you should know that it incorporates quite a few design flaws (I assume, part of them are just copied from the original design; part of them might be due to copying badly) - some of which already hinted at by Franz in his blog. So, I'll stick to what I consider an absolute no-go. The internal stop pin is waaaay to weak - mine bent(!) in the process of the initial burn-in-flicking (you know what you do when you get a new knife), causing the knife to not really close at some point and not fully open (lock not engaging) at another (the pin may have been turned slightly from the flicks ... I concluded later). So, I took the thing apart and saw that the pin is much smaller than the corresponding slit in the blade and much smaller than the holes in the handle holding it (seemingly drilled with different diameters, kind of a stepped bore). I'm rather confident this (thinner stop pin + second bore with smaller dia) was done to compensate for dimensional errors. Whatever the reason, as a result, the knife is likely to fail in the not-so-far-future (as did mine). If you already have the knife, please be encouraged to take it apart and report back here (heat the pivot in boiling water before - loads of glue there) - I'd be thrilled to know mine is an exception.

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  13. Me, the party pooper again. One thing, I'd like to add to my previous post: Franz mentioned in his blog that on his knife the lock had a tendency to stick at first - this might very well be related to a (too) thin/long stop pin not being very stiff and thus acting as a spring, when the knife is open. This spring can create a bit of slip-stick'ish behaviour between the lock insert and the blade. On mine, when pushing the lock bar back and releasing the blade, the blade would jump just a tiny little bit - at first I didn't understand why, but now it all adds up

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    1. Haven't taken apart mine yet (why would I, it works perfectly right now) but the problem of stickiness was not a geometry/stop pin problem, simply the hardened still insert on the lock bar that was poorly surfaced. The repeated flicks/flips have made it smooth against the blade stock (leaving a metal residue that I then wiped) which in turn did solve all problems: no stickiness, perfect repeatable lock position.
      Let's hope my pin, and that of most other buyers, stays more robust than yours (and that you find a way to either make it stronger or get it replaced). As I said I haven't taken apart my knife, but the pics from vendors show a pin that shouldn't bend as it's rather thick and short.

      So to me the main problem now is that the detent ball has that "down the ricasso" trip that slows the folding back and makes the whole deployment a tad less smooth than what it could be (that would be perfect given how smooth it's already). Probably from the original. And possibly justified so as to not have the blade fall on your fingers when closing the knife. Still, I wish it was different.

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    2. If I get it right your "detent ball problem" it's a quite common case among frame / liner lock folders. For example the ANAX and CH "skull" folder work the same but it has only a faint effect on the closing action.

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  14. Well it's the same... But way worse because of the rounding/crowning of the blade, the ricasso included. So there's a rather deep "saddle" and the change of relative depth is about the size of the detent ball itself.

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