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Wednesday, September 23, 2015

New arrivals - awesome Shirogorov Hati style & new Y-Start folders

Shirogorov Hati G10 & Y-Start

Excellent, high quality folders with a perfect fit & finish.
Thanks to the dual track ball bearing pivot system the Hati is a splendid flipper. Although it comes with a steel frame lock it weights less than my full titanium Shirogorov F95.
Detailed reviews are coming soon! :)

You can buy them at reliable sellers on Aliexpress:
Shirogorov Hati G10 (black or orange 144g):   ***HERE***
Exclusive titanium version with CF (115g):      ***HERE*** (D2 blade)
Exclusive titanium version with CF (115g):      ***HERE*** (S35VN blade)
Exclusive titanium version with CF (125g):      ***HERE***
Exclusive titanium version with G10 (130g):    ***HERE***

You can buy the Y-start JIN01 at Fasttech.com: ***HERE*** (black-blue)
                                                                                ***HERE*** (black-orange)
                                                                                ***HERE*** (orange)
                                                                                ***HERE*** (black)
                                                                                ***HERE*** (green)
                                                                                ***HERE*** (black-red)

You can buy the Y-Start JIN01 at GearBest: ***HERE***
You can buy the Y-Start JIN01 with different logo on Aliexpress: ***HERE*** (4 colors)

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30 comments:

  1. Hi Isti,
    Very interesting and I'm clearly very tempted by the Hati with the carbon fibre scale. Just one thing, you speak about a steel frame but the seller's site says "TC4 titanium" (would explain why it's not super heavy).

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    1. Hi,
      I have the cheaper G10 version with steel frame (handle) which weights less than my full titanium F95.
      The more expensive carbon fiber version comes with titanium frame (handle) that's why it weights only 115g.

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  2. I mean all of my steel frame lock folders with the same size weight considerably more than the steel frame lock G10 Hati. So the manufacturer did a very good job by reducing the weight with the milled out steel frame.

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  3. Ah, OK, that makes sense, the price difference is not only justified by the presentation side being carbon instead of g10...
    I very much think I'll order one in titanium/carbon tonight, even if I'm already having a rather expensive "District 9 Original" in the mail (should arrive tomorrow or Saturday).

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    1. The 115g weight of the CF version sounds amazing for sure! :)
      Which version of the D9 did you order grey or gold?

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    2. The thing is, I don't remember if I did choose a version. I was very much hesitating: the stone-wash looks coarse and very nice on the grey one, so I'd like it, but the anodisation in gold/bronze is dope, too...

      So, that will be a surprise!

      But arghh, I looking for the carbon version and the only one I find is a slightly different, with the new screws and single row bearing in the pivot.

      I'll keep searching.

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  4. Ahhh, actually there are two versions of that carbon hati in D2. Almost the same price, the one you link, supposedly lighter and with double row steel ball bearings and "old" half slit hardware. And another version with single row bearings, but supposedly in ceramic, 10 more grams of overal weight and the "new" hardware with the oval like on your icebreaker.

    Hesitation, hesitation...

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  5. I eventually decided to go with the one similar to what you linked: lighter (cavities in the titanium side which the other version doesn't have) which is great, double row ball bearings (which I haven't tried yet) and to hell if they're steel instead of ceramic (but your seller says it was ceramic), and the old harder with the semi-slit (which I actually find easier to manipulate, with a 1ct coin for example).
    Only negative is it comes in the standard cardbox (not bad) instead of a leatherette pouch.

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    1. My Hati flips open superbly with the double row bearings out of the box without any extra tuning.
      I also prefer the old style pivot screw for practical reasons.

      Don't regret that leather pouch! I have 3 of them, they are made of PU leather and the zippers don't work properly either.

      I got the itch to try out this new ADAI Shirogorov F95 with real M390 blade steel.

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    2. Not so sure about this one. First it's quite expensive for a Chinese knife, second M390 is great, but not super easy to resharpen. S35vn is my "top super steel", for practical reasons... AND... (that's the actual dominant reason) it's just too similar in looks to my seashell in D2, which I so happen to be currently EDCing ;)
      But I'll sure be very interested to learn what you think of it when you get it... if you get it!!!

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    3. After the Icebreaker I'm not thrilled about the look but the blade steel. I'd like to know what's behind the hype around the M390 steel. :)

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  6. I just received the District 9 Original... It was in the dark grey colour, with strong stonewash. Really striking. This knife is build like a tank, feels like a tank. Or a "bank vault". It is very well finished, the blade is top, with a satin finish alternating vertical direction on the ground part, horizontal rub on the flats (it seems hand rub, with a not perfect orientation and not perfectly linear brushing lines). The spine is also brushed, with perfectly executed bevels and a fine gimping. By the way, it seems hand ground as well, well executed but not perfectly regular.
    The action is perfect: strong detent and very smooth pivot, it flips like a dream. By the way, that strong detent and the shape of the things that look like thumb studs prevent the "thumb-flick"... unless you're ready to kill your thumb ;).

    I'll do a full report with pics on my blog this week-end. But it feels better than any other knife I have, Chinese or not.

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    1. Sounds great congratulations! :)
      Does flipping the knife open and closing it feel comfortable? Does it have an early lock-up?
      Those are my pet peeves.

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  7. Flipping might be a bit harsh because of the strong detent, but else, the flipper is gimped but not too aggressively and well chamfered. The closing is a real joy, there's a good relief cut for the thumb in the frame so nothing will cut you, and the frame is flexible enough. As for lock-up, I'd say 15 to 20%, and it's got steel insert, so it's not likely to change much over the course of time...
    Blade centring is about perfect too. The hardware is mounted flush inside the scales and it might well be the only chines knife (except from top Reate models) with a titanium pivot.

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  8. Done, my review and pictures are on-line on my blog.

    Do not hesitate to comment or ask questions there... I think I might be among the very first to review that knife!

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    1. Well written review, it makes me want another District 9! :)

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  9. Hi Isti, I was just looking at those D2-G10 liner locks earlier today, and they are very attractive.

    I have had a hard time finding reviews of them, have you used yours at all or developed any further opinions about it?

    It's flat ground, the scales look perfect, the lanyard loop is a great feature, and it looks very comfortable in the hand and pocket, and even the black version looks friendly as far as knives go.

    Is it a worthy purchase, my own optimism aside?

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    1. If you mean the Y-Start folder I use it almost every day and I highly recommend it. It feels very comfortable in the hand, opening and closing is also comfortable. After a couple of days the action got very smooth so it's a joy to open or close it.

      They paid attention on every detail: chamfered steel liners, nice jimpings on the blade spine and bigger ones on the handle. There aren't any sharp edges or corners on the handle, everything is rounded. The liner-lock is so thick that they could sell it as a frame-lock without the G10 scales. :)

      The blade has a very nice satin finish and thanks to the full flat grind it slices really well.

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    2. If they'd make this one in the size of the RAT 2 then I'd get it right away :)

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  10. Is the Y start and original design, or a copy?

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    1. ProblematicAcanthusMarch 18, 2016 at 6:51 PM

      It seems to be a copy of the Boker Magnum B&B, though with D2 (claimed; I have no way to test) vs the Boker's stated 440A.

      It's a fairly large folder, which I didn't fully realize until handling it.

      Isti's comments certainly hold true for the one I bought recently; it seems to be very well made and it's very easy in the hand.

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  11. UH OH! Had to order the 115g CF/TI Hati when Ali had the 11.11 sale.

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    1. That light weight version is tempting me too! :)

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  12. Greetings. My steel frame g10 Hati just arrived. I am very pleased. Amazing quality. Thanks for the tip.

    Congratulations on your blog, accurate reviews and you have a good taste.



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    1. Thanks for the feedback! :)
      The steel frame/G10 Hati has an excellent price/value ratio.

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  13. Hi Isti. I am experiencing a problem with my steel/g10 hati. The pivot screw loosens up as you open and close the knife over and over. Therefore, I have to constantly tighten the screw to prevent blade play and it remains well centered. The screw loosens up to the point it can be easily moved using a fingertip. Does this happens to yours?

    I also would like to know what do you use to lubricate the knife pivot?

    Thanks in advance

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  14. Hi,

    Mine doesn't get loose because I usually apply some thread locker (the blue one which is not permanent) on the pivot screws of my folders. I highly recommend it because you don't have to adjust the pivot screws all the time.

    I use bicycle chain lubricants on the pivots of my folders they make a significant difference compared to the ordinary "factory" lubricants.

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  15. Thanks for the tip.

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  16. Greetings. What kind of bicycle chain lube do you use on the pivot? Wet, dry or wax?

    Thanks

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    1. Hi,
      At the moment I use a wet one but I'm planning to try a dry teflon one.

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